She, a renowned marine biologist, has been fascinated by the mysterious underwater world within our endangered oceans—that are supposed to be “less explored than Mars”. He, a climate researcher with international standing, is convinced that climate neutrality can only be reached with a reduction of energy consumption—that is a systemic change. And he, a leading expert in biodiversity research, explains that the raw material wood, that wetlands and butterflies, that biodiversity saves the very subsistence of human life. A conversation about the climate crisis. 

Franz Essl
Biodiversity Researcher, University of Vienna

Georg Kaser
Climate Researcher, Austrian Academy of Sciences

Julia Schnetzer
Marine Bioligist, Author of “Wenn Haie leuchten” (When Sharks Glow), published in 2021, Podcast Host

Hosted by
Simon Welebil
Editor for Radio FM4 – Austrian public-service broadcaster ORF